Time to name and shame
Christian von Lähr
I warned in my tribute to Michael Jackson that it would not be long before someone claimed to be receiving spirit messages from the King of Pop. And I promised to name and shame the individual making such a preposterous claim if it was not evidential. That time has come much sooner than even I expected.
Before I do so, however, let me explain that I am not saying that Michael Jackson would not wish to make contact from the next world. What I am certain about – and I am sure most would agree with me – is that when a celebrity dies he or she is likely to want to make contact with loved ones in circumstances that are private.
But someone called Christian von Lähr, who describes himself as “a modern day seer” gifted with the power of “clairvoyant medical intuition” which enables him to look inside a person’s body and diagnose problems.
He not only claims to have been in touch with Michael Jackson but has “channelled” him on one of America’s most popular paranormal radio shows: Coast to Coast AM with George Noory, which is also available on the Internet.
Von Lähr explained to the show’s presenter, Ian Punnett, on 29 June, that he was in Los Angeles early in February this year when one of his clients was approached by “the contingency that was supporting Michael Jackson” about a medical discovery for treating MRSA. This, he claims, was the pop star’s biggest problem and those around him expected him to die.
Christian von Lähr says he “pre-connected” with Jackson and the King of Pop’s guardian angel and higher self, picking up some additional medical information in the process but confirming that his client’s development would have eradicated the MRSA.
Jackson on his Off The Wall album cover
With Michael Jackson’s sudden death, this spiritual contact four months earlier apparently opened a psychic door to the star for von Lähr, who published various statements about his death on his website and then “channelled” him on Coast To Coast in what was billed as “Michael Jackson’s First World-Wide Interview Live”.
Does any of this impress me? No at all. Do I believe it to be disrespectful to the memory of Michael Jackson? Certainly. Is this charade demeaning for Spiritualism and mediumship? Definitely.
Had the “channelling” of Jackson been confined to the radio programme, it might have been easy to forget. Unfortunately, it is now available on YouTube, in four parts, and the TV news channel, CNBC, among others, has also covered the story.
If you feel I’m being too harsh on Christian von Lähr, then consider his other claims to fame:
Among those he has channeled are “all the archangels” and the “ascended Masters” including Jesus, Mother Mary, Ganesh and Merlin. Various gods and goddesses have communicated through him, too, including Venus, Apollo. Pluto and the Moon Goddess. Saints Peter, Paul, Mark, Luke and Thomas have also put in appearances, as have US Presidents Lincoln, Jefferson, Washington, Franklin and Roosevelt.
Von Lähr has even found time to give voice to Socrates, Aristotle, Princess Diana and Sir Isaac Newton as well as “animals of all types”.
And he even finds time to give personal readings (at a cost of $250 for an hour or $450 for two hours – don’t all rush!).
But von Lähr’s biggest claim to fame (until now) has been the work he and Christopher Valentine – his business and life partner – do with Nature People: elves, faeries, gnomes and leprechauns. Their workshops, in which they teach people how to see and communicate with these “elemental spirits” are fully booked months in advance, and their book signings are just as popular.
Incidentally, the image of Christian von Lähr on the couple’s website, seems to be considerably younger – dare I say, elf-like? – compared with the 2008 publicity for one of their Gnome events!
Gnome sweet gnome: publicity for one of their workshops
I said it was time to name and shame – and that is what I have done. But given the preposterous nature of their claims, I doubt that shame is a word that exists in their joint vocabulary. And if it does, it presumably translates immediately to “fame”.
What a funny old world!
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“Does any of this impress me? No at all. Do I believe it to be disrespectful to the memory of Michael Jackson? Certainly. Is this charade demeaning for Spiritualism and mediumship? Definitely.”
That you are not impressed at what has thus far been expressed in your journaling of my endeavors is rather immaterial. I am practiced, proficient, educated and recognised for specifically this work which spans four decades. You neglected to point out that I do what seldom anyone else would attempt: I travel the country and prove case by case my claims. What’s worse still, is I actually have other participants in the Michael Jackson scenario that are witness to, and substantiating of the situation. Your claims and insinuations are blatantly false, and I use your forum to condemn your methods of self gratification. I stand by all that I claim and express, you have NO way to.
By what possible credential can a mere internet corresponder take professional or practical exception with my established expertise? Clearly NONE! Rash indifference is yours, not a right to ignorantly condemn. If there is any true disservice done to the public it is blatantly unprofessional journalism. You’ve done nothing whatsoever to authenticate your false and ill-advised condemnation. Bad on you!
I suggest your Name and Shame award you were remiss to find warrant for, is because it is YOU who deserve it. Accept it with the same reverence you expect from others.
I think it is high time in this current age of awareness that those proficient and practicing clairvoyants, mediums and intuitives RISE UP and turn the tables on these irresponsible journalists. They represent no one and nothing other then their shallow attempt at notoriety by condeming those who have greater celebrity than they.
Ridiculous journalism. Psychics, start taking these incompetent self-described reporters TO TASK!!!
Christian von Lahr
I am delighted that Christian von Lahr has taken the trouble to respond to my Name and Shame blog, but his diatribe against me does him no favours, particularly as he offers no new evidence to support his claim that he channelled Michael Jackson’s spirit soon after the King of Pop died. During the 40+ years I have been writing on the paranormal, I have got to know many great psychics. The one thing they have in common is respect for the confidentiality of their clients and a desire to behave in a way that does not bring their mediumship or Spiritualism into question. Christian von Lahr, on the other hand, lost no time after Michael Jackson’s passing in going on air and claiming to channel him. There was no evidence to support that claim and I remain unimpressed.
People will have different views on this, but my approach to such claims is that they need to be supported with hard evidence and I’ve seen nothing in the transcript of that radio event that I regard as even remotely evidential. The channelled Jackson said that on his arrival in the next world he demonstrated his new Moonwalk (there were rumours that he had a new walk for his planned O2 shows) and sang his new song to those waiting to greet him. Perhaps von Lahr would like to walk the walk and sing the song to help support this rather absurd claim.
I’m happy to let visitors to my Blog judge whether the Jackson supposedly channelled through von Lahr was really the spirit of Michael Jackson. Here are a few quotes to help you make that judgment, taken from von Lahr’s website with “Michael” talking about his own funeral (not the one on earth but the one he held for himself in the spirit world!):
“My funeral I held myself. I invited or otherwise received a small but select group of well-wishers, teachers, guiding influences, and ‘real’ luminaries of life as would be commonly known, and some above or beyond common awareness too. My insightful guests were sincere and personal, all genuine, spiritual in total. Their interest was to be with me while I entered my contemplation:
“… to appraise myself fully and let surface those things that were [the core] of my being, so that I can know me;
“… to contemplate my death, yet not death, and what it meant to [me], as well as others.”
Does that sound like Michael Jackson to you? It certainly doesn’t to me. I won’t quote more of this very long contemplation attributed to Jackson, apart from this wonderful conclusion:
“My humble eulogy was most compassionately presided over by Mother Teresa. One who always comes to those who suffer in solitude. The angels were her choir and they were splendid. The assemblage could resonate with the rainbow hues of her tribute as sound and colour, and emotion and reality are all one in her church.”
And von Lahr has the temerity to accuse me of “ridiculous journalism”. What is ridiculous is von Lahr’s Michael Jackson “channelling” and his subsequent attempt to justify it by asking other psychics, clairvoyants and intuitives to rise up against those, like me, who dare criticise these inane claims that are patently absurd. I’m afraid von Lahr is likely to find himself in a minority of one, on that score, though “psychic to the stars” Judy Hevenly, who claims that Jackson was an alien who has now returned to his home planet, might care to join him, along with medium Bonnie Vent, who is currently channelling Jackson on YouTube.
I prefer to wait for hard evidence of Michael Jackson’s spirit return.
I must say that I have seen michael jackson interviews and movies, while I cannot say that I know him personally I must say that the channeling portion i have listened to seems incredibly reflective of Jackson’s personality. I have nothing but great respect for michael jackson’s art and work and did not find the channeling in any way disrespectful at all. I hope that if we are able to be channelled from the afterlife and if I, after my leaving here, have something to say, that someone would bother to help me communicate with my friends, fans or family. If you think a subject is so silly then why would you comment at all on it.
Hello,
My intention is not to judge your article here, but possibly point out that I have listened to the channelling myself. What I found most fascinating actually was the point when Michael said that there was something wrong with the time he died. He does not know when he passed, then went on to say the oxygen tank was half empty did it run out? Why I find this interesting is because this interview was conducted 2 days after Michael’s passing and now it is being reported that Michael had no pulse and was not breathing when paramedics arrived, as reported on CNN. Suggesting that he may have passed hours earlier than that of the 911 call made at 12:21pm. The doctor did not want the paramedics to stop CPR and wanted him taken to hospital. So i don’t know, this seems to me that it may in fact be evidence that Dr. von Lahr was accurate. And surely you cannot find it that strange that the great Michael Jackson contacted a person who has expertise in fairies/ gnomes… Michael loved PETER PAN and believed he had the heart of peterpan. It seems to me that Dr.Von Lahr would be perfect for the job. I sure hope that if the hard evidence and facts come out that you would be willing to retract your article. I did not know Michael but I respect him very much as an artist and a human being. He loved his fans and this to me doesn’t surprise me that he would want to come forward and explain what he was trying to do here on earth. Just my humble opinion. It is not for us to judge people.
This may be the most premature, immature and unbiased journalism on the Internet. I agree, you should retract your awful condemnation. Shame on YOU!
Christian von Lahr has proven himself to be the most notable clairvoyant, or medium of this day. His bravery is beyond commendable, it is history. NO ONE else took on this thankless and most impossible of tasks, and he did it 2 days after Michael Jackson’s passing, and you know it. HE WAS FIRST with the news we now accept as common knowledge. Your article is crazy. We have all heard it live for ourselves on Coast to Coast Radio. We Americans are not stupid. We have ears. We can read the resulting reports.
I don’t know how far behind you’all are over there on News Feeds in the UK, but over here, von Lahr is burning the wire. Everything is being confirmed. Don’t you get twiters? Or news from the US? The difficulty breathing Michael Jackson himself reported FIRST in von Lahr’s reading, Christian was “spot on.” Give him a break here, that was amazing. Michael’s issue with not getting air is quite likely the cause of death directly or indirectly as doctory Murry WAS THERE allegedly pumping him with air, a requirement of the application of dripovan. Again, we heard it FIRST from von Lahr. No body believed it at the time, but Christian was right. How biased can a journalist be? These are facts. The time of death is RIGHT NOW confirming christian von Lahr’s LIVE and direct channel just after Jackson’s passing. Jackson was saying “8 AM, 8 or 18, or shortly after, not the after noon as first reported in the news. Christian von Lahr GOT IT RIGHT! Read the papers, UK, it’s on TV. You’all read English over there? The time of death is now being fixed very close to 8 AM. This is the news of the hour. The Chef that confirmed Christian’s information is on CNN Larry King right now, buy an American television if you want the correct story as reported by Christian. They caught the doctor using his cell phone at 9 Am to private associates regarding a situation with Jackson. The doctor is being investigated for this earlier death and covering up. They’ve raided all of his offices and warehouses just today. They’ve found lots of stuff on his computer, aliases used for Jackson’s drugs. These records are going to show the dripovan, and the officials have now directly contacted the manufacture to prove it. I can’t understand the British mind set, come on, facts are facts. Just the first inference live on Coast to Coast is absolutely a thrilling revelation that mediumship works. We’ve got the best here, and you can’t have him.
I for one am $93*^ mad that you Brit’s can condemn our first-medium. Jackson himself chose Dr. Christian von Lahr, and this was reported. He wanted the therapy that von Lahr’s associates had available for medial trial. Christian had names, dates and places. The celebrity Jamie Foxx was conveyed as a “Handler”. Hours ago the chef CONFIRMED both her association working for Foxx, and his influence on Michael. You Brit’s need a better backbone, and speaking of backbones, you Roy Stemman are showing you have none for condemning one of our finest in his hour of greatest service, to Michael Jackson and Jackson’s fans. Your article was so unfair, so untimely, so premature, so un-factual and so purposefully vindictive that your Internet page deserves no credence whatsoever. Retract your unfair blurb now. IT WAS WRONG, and flagrantly unjust. Give the dude the public apology he deserves. YOU couldn’t do this Channel, and you didn’t. Dr. Christian von Lahr, Michael Jackson’s chosen channel delivered HIS (Michael Jackson’s) final words, and he did it PERFECTLY. Put the tea down, dudes, and start reporting responsibly. Mediums are real. Clairvoyant von Lahr is indeed the one and only live channel of Michael Jackson, and he is the only one in the field who is batting 100% on this. You do not even have grounds to draw question to this process, what’s the matter with you guys, I thought you were blogging on paranormal. This one falls in your lap and you crucified your own. Get Real.
I, for one AM mad at you. So there.
Juline Prison
I am dismayed. I am dazed by this overconfident antagonism. I state publically that I do not understand the purpose of this journalist to representing any moral calling or service, and I call on other psychics and mediums to condemn this attack on our own. I cannot find any legitimate rationale for your presentment of judgment of a celebrated and respected international spiritual figure, as if you, Mr. Stemman, have authority. This is something contrived, deliberate, and admittedly premeditated. Someone is guilty of quackery simply because they did an obvious act of service at the demise of Michael Jackson. Why did you not predict and condemn people for showing up at his funeral?
I concur with Dr. Christian von Lahr, we Intuitives of all fashions must stand as one against a common enemy, spiritual bigotry. Our time in this world has come, and we must unite and take pride in the work we do, and honor those who pave the way. You, Mr. Stemman are NOT our better, you are not even one of us, and you have no validity whatsoever that you claim to pass off your prejudices as some sanctioned denouncement. You are unacceptable.
Perhaps Mr. Stemman your opinion is purely subjective. The world does not confirm our psychic mediums by your earthly criteria, that would be irrational. Anyone of such awareness already knows how ludicrous it is to prove apples with oranges. Christian von Lahr is a very well respected clairvoyant and medium, he is one of the few who are publically demonstrable of the greatest examples of spiritual manifestation. He has proven himself to his peers, with accolades, over decades. He is true to his spirituality and produces his proofs from those realms of a different reality than you acknowledge, and to those who have similar perceptions, prove such he does.
When we with open minds follow the process — and the world is not so spiritually ignorant Mr. Stemman as you would make us to be — and we then allow our insight to draw from higher realms (even though some according to our beliefs might chose to name them differently) we likewise can fully grasp the particularly substantiated messages given in Christian von Lahrs channel of Michael Jackson immediate after his passing. This does not require rocket science.
I wonder if you are not perhaps 2 decades behind the times. Are you someone who falls short of the psychic process, so would condemn those who can produce, where you could not? It sure seems so. I do not know, but I can’t imagine the fine doctor Christian von Lahr was doing some experiment for YOU. Was he? They why does he have to pay some price to you? You who are nothing of importance. He was not subjecting his results to the confines of your tests. Had you asked him to dumb-down and simplify the message procedure for you? Would it have even mattered? I gravely doubt it since you are designing a Page with only one benefactor, one purpose, which is to be biased. It is a product for your gain.
You have prescribed yourself as an expert, you have assigned yourself the role to accuse, then to judge then to dispense justice. You are qualified for none of these roles that I have read or learned from your site or elsewhere, so you err in your context, automatically. You have no request from anyone to perform an Internet crucifixion that you claim, so we have no hate-group that you acknowledge backing from. You have no constituency whatsoever that acknowledges your acuity as a standard, as public opinion, as an expert opinion or even as a spiritual opinion. This I must point out since you are requiring someone fully unaware of you and your malevolent motives, to provide you corroboration of his prowess, merits and calling. That, sir, is devious.
Here’s a message from we our growing circle of capable psychics; “If you can’t do the work, then you can’t judge the work.”
Girls, we are coming into the Light now, It’s our time, and we’ve suffered all our lives to have our voice, to do our service. Do not let intolerant, belligerent self-deluded internet journalist tricksters hold you back. Archangel Michael is ever with us. We are one and we are entering our own time in this world, and it is about time. We are needed. Stand back Stemman, you are a small man and you are in the way of the progress of man’s Soul. You may have burned us at the stake once, but NO MORE will you be allowed to carry matches.
I’m Mad And I’m Not Going To Take It Anymore!
The Third Circle of Greater New York Psychics.
“If you can’t do the work, then you can’t judge the work.”
What a ridiculous mantra! So I have to be a psychic to judge a psychic, a singer to judge a singer, etc. When someone performs in public – as Christian von Lahr did when he made his appearance on Coast to Coast – he must expect to be judged. I don’t expect everyone to share my views but they are based on many years of experience and are expressed because I believe that by jumping so hastily onto the Michael Jackson bandwaggon, which would rightly be ridiculed by many, von Lahr is doing a disservice to all those other mediums and psychics who work quietly behind the scenes to bring comfort to those in need.
You call me a “small man”. Shame on you! What will von Lahr think of you? All his best friends, it seems, are little people!
As far as I’m concerned, I stand by every word I wrote. If you want a taste of some real criticism, why don’t you look on the Coast to Coast website forum. You’ll find people who heard the “Michael Jackson channelling” show expressing views such as “like a schizophrenic having a conversation with himself”, adding: “I would be more likely to consider the guest’s claim that he was channeling Michael Jackson if he didn’t do the worst (and funniest) C2C show I’ve ever heard. I think you know the one I’m talking about, where for 3 hours he talked about gnomes and leprechauns.” Another says: “I went to von Lahr’s website and it’s full of the usual appalling dreck. Any thoughts? Or did most of you have better things to do last night than listening to this schmuck?”
You may not like what I wrote, but I’m certainly not a lone voice!
I would love to see one of these people who Michael is talking through sing or speak a song that is not known or something but who knows what information they can get.
Most of the world is not trusting of all these people claiming things we can not see and please people you have to know these are professionals who can get information maybe pay for information which keeps money in the pockets of everyone if they seem genuine and like they know special information. I admit I was spooked when I heard the comment about the air tank and time of death also although not surprised when they came out and said this because I did think it strange for a busy man and a father to be sleeping till 11am regardless of anything else. On another topic many people are saying Michaels death is a fake and it was all set up to get the money he needed but escape once and for all as the public Michael Jackoson. If this were true as much as I would love to think it is then who are all these people talking with? Is is possible they are talking to spirits who are just enjoying the attention ?
YOUR PREMISE:
“Before I do so, however, let me explain that I am not saying that Michael Jackson would not wish to make contact from the next world. What I am certain about – and I am sure most would agree with me – is that when a celebrity dies he or she is likely to want to make contact with loved ones in circumstances that are private.”
What you have going for you in your base argument, Stemman, is “– and I am sure most would agree with me –“. They would, but that doesn’t make they, nor you, correct.
“What I am certain about“ is a failing of understanding the work, means and particulars of mediumship. You go on to say, “that when a celebrity dies he or she is likely to want to make contact with loved ones “ and you are “certain” of this. Your certainty is the failing with this argument. You are quite incorrect.
The fact is, a celebrity’s loved ones Aare his audience. Actual and true loved ones and family are relatively few, if any at all. A basic purpose in reconnecting with family is to bring closure. However, with a celebrity, there is a family objective to bring solutions.
One’s celebrity itself is an indication of their need to express [themselves] in difference to their family. Very few will feel they are loved, understood and supported by family and alleged friends. Rather, there will be moments with said family and friends, and these will be readily reviewed as to their authentication quite soon on the other-side. The truth becomes evident.
Friends and families of celebrities have agendas.
What will happen, though, is the celebrity will feel emotions very strongly, and those emotions of their audience will triumph. It’s simply an equation. With an enhanced sense of emotion, the actual truth about family and friends will surface, too, immediately. Quality and quantity is evaluated. To the surprise of many, whether celebrity or not, the departed may have finished their association with someone on passing; this could be father/mother, son/daughter or friend. Many around us are accoutrements.
In fact, when one comes to a medium to connect with a departed family member, there is no certainty at all that they will come in, … and/or another astral spirit form who presumes a greater more meaningful connection to you may insist they come in first, or instead. Perhaps their connection is over many lifetimes, for example. A mother and father may have only been a means to an end. Quite a certain fact.
When a celebrity themselves wants to connect directly with friends or family, they will and quite soon, they will chose the appropriate medium, and that indeed would likely be private, but there is no necessity to this at all – it’s just a custom. The operative word, however, is WANTS. The living presume a very great deal of what the departed should feel, think and say. Almost always, they will be remiss. The departed now has advantage of 14 degrees of dimension, and actually most of what they think, say, have to say and want to say will go over the family or friend’s heads. They are thinking from [their] perspective. Most sitters fail to see the quintessential meaning behind the metaphors. A good medium must manage the process because communication, essentially, is one getting their full meaning across. This is where clairvoyance in addition to mediumship contributes greatly, since what is received can be seen, and therefore, compared.
When a celebrity reaches out to their audience, it is they that he or she is feeling compassion for and, therefore, it is an opportunity to aid in the grieving process so the audience reevaluates actual loss. For many, it is this very emotion that changes their state so that they now believe in the other worlds. The vested interest of the celebrity is in their (the audience) happiness and closure, for sheer numbers alone, affect the sanity and serenity of a celebrity who has passed. Every single sorrow and joy is felt and amplified. Closure with the far greater numbers will be the more pressing objective.
Family and friends have other things on their mind early on, and they are better served later. The departed will take the time to adjust, airbrush themselves to appear as they choose, guaranteed, and induce a mediumistic connection, if they actually desire one. When it is essential or crucial, then that visitation would happen immediately in the apparition form, such being more the semi-conscious ethereal sheath, and no medium would be involved. Later one is often sought out to explain the visitation.
Fans and audiences are not usually visited in the physical. Quite conversely, it will be easier to make presentation to the many in the astral plane, the other-side, once the many persons are in a dream state. Since the passing is on their mind before slumber, there is greater certainty they will actually seek out the celebrity in the astral. Advantages of time, distance, and depth of communication then serve the departed celebrity. The celebrity, themselves, will have a strong need or urge to do something “good,” and appropriately, most angelic-style work is done in the astral, during dream state.
What ensues afterwards, is interesting. This is when people notice the butterflies, birds, feathers, number patters, and synchronistic things. They may see angels, a real and valid life form, and may too see and hear giggling of the playing of nature spirits, these being akin to angels. An opening to the spirit world (actually astral world) allows for perceptions of these forms of life that otherwise go unnoticed.
Now, Stemman, I have done this work for four decades, you have only just written about, and sparingly, for three. Your sense of certainty is grossly overstated. Things are the way I have explained, and such are the facts of mediumship.
Christian von Lahr
I don’t know whether it was M or not as I’m not psychic, so don’t have much to contribute to the debate. All I know is that I don’t know much and am just an average person.
But I would like to express that what really struck me was that both of you are very genuine and good people who care for others. It is so evident in the passion with which you both speak about what you believe. It might sound like an odd thing to say but it came across very strongly to me.
With my best wishes Catarina
I agree with the article, this guy is another liar jumping on the bandwagon. He claims that his ‘client’ met MJ and he saw that MJ’s body was heavily infected by bacteria specifically he MRSA! I mean come one, MRSA is one of the most contagious strains out there. If MJ had this he children would have had it so too would have all those who came near him, who breathed his air or touched him. Yet those who were closest to him 24/7 and those who met him up close, don’t have this infection! Not a single one of them!
Then he claims that MJ didn’t know (as a spirit) when he died exactly. Now some of his blind followers have attached that to the rumors that MJ may have died earlier than expected to give this credibility. Well, the reason why this guy didn’t say the exact time of death when he was allegedly ‘channeling’ MJ, is because he doesn’t know as he wasn’t channeling MJ at all. You mean to tell me that after all the other so called info that MJ gave him during these sessions, even in spirit MJ doesn’t know when he died? Come on, you can’t think that spirits are that stupid! lol
If you look deeper into this guys claims you see that a lot of it is based on speculations & rumors that have been surrounding MJ when he was alive. Some other nut (Ian something) published a book claiming that MJ had MRSA, cancer and a whole bunch of other stuff. I am guessing either these two work together or this guy read Ian’s book.
Another thing, Debbie Rowe never, ever said that MJ wasn’t the biological father of his kids. Never! In fact a few years a go a paper published an interview claiming it was from Debbie alleging these very things. When Debbie found out she denied having ever done an interview with that paper or any other and ever saying all the rubbish that was printed. Debbie did say that Klein isn’t the biological father of the kids and that MJ is, this was a few weeks after MJ’s death when reporters asked her as she was coming out of the clinic.
So this guy (Christian Von Lahr) needs to get medical help. I need to ask him though, since I see he actually searches the net for his name, as he responded on your blog, when the autopsy tests come out and it’s clear that MJ didn’t have MRSA (let’s face it if he was really that close to death in February when he allegedly made contact with your client for treatment, then there wouldn’t be a need for an investigation since the cause of death would have been known almost immediately), would he then apologize for all the lies he has been spreading?
Ok. First Debbie rowe did in fact say that MJ was not the biological father as she stated in 2005 in official court documents which she filed to have her parental rights restored as CNN reported… she did this because on the litigation that Michael was on-going. So I understand court documents to be legal and binding. Now Michael said in the channelling he was gone a 8 or 8:18.. now c’mon guys you cant tell me that Dr. vonlahr made this up.. especially since now it has been widely reported that MJ was in fact dead hours before the 911 call was made. The paramedics confirmed this. And the suspicious phone call to dr. murrays assistants to pick up articles from the storage container. ODD ODD. Cmon. So you think it was just Dr. vonlahr wishful thinking to blurt out the “oxygen tanks were half empty, whats wrong wioth the air” I suppose he just pulled that out of thin air right! WRONG! no way. So before anyone starts stating facts here maybe they should dig a little deeper and read some court documents…. do some research on Soul evolution and cosmology. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and their right to voice their opinion. I just find it absolutely crazy that judgements are being made without checking the validity of things. READ the court documents, watch MJ home videos, read his lyrics, and I think you might find some of this “evidence” that you are so concerned about finding. MJ was a deeply spiritual person and nobody can dispute that, but yes their can be confusion when we cross over the otherside, especially if you consider the way a person died. It doesnt just go away, we often hold onto many emotions for a while. But we always remember events and the people that loved us.
MAYBE WE ALL NEED TO REMEMBER WHAT MICHAEL STOOD FOR. BROTHERHOOD, COMPASSION and LOVE.
Whether von lahr channeled Michael Jackson doesn’t matter anymore. Besides as himself
(von liar) commenting here, do you see the comments from ‘A’, ‘Del’, and ‘Juline Prison’? These are just some of the phony profiles that are actually von lahr promoting himself just as he tries to do on the Youtube’s ‘Michael Jackson’s Final Message From Beyond’ comment sections using the same phony names. That just makes him nothing more than a self promoting LIAR now, doesn’t it? Yes, it does. How pathetic. With those kinds of tactics, he cannot be trusted for anything he claims to be. Even more pathetic is that he has this teeny tiny cult following of nothing more than overzealous Michael Jackson fans believing and hanging on his every word in his blog – now forum, and he enjoys ever minute of it. Very sad, disgusting and shameful! Bad on him!
I have heard the channels and found them extraordinary. The love coming through is genuine. And so is Mr von Lahr. I have had a personal reading from him and the information that comes through just knocked my socks off. Over and over again. He channeled several family members and the messages gave me chills, only I would know these things. When a complete stranger can channel my family and randomly pick up illnesses of those living and past, dates, names, miscarriages, directions in life, places we have lived, what the problem was I had as a child and then during high school that nearly ruined my life, and can see what is my most difficult situation, then go the extra mile to solve the problem for me, well, that’s my psychic. He was right. He’s genuine. His advice was all spot-on.